their a handful of states that have released the prices like virginia, washington state, arizona, indiana. we have seen modest increases, 10%, not enough for in the doppler -- >> it's my fault. is there a rid quo pro for states with hikes and probable hems and that state's democratic incumbent in trouble? >> absolutely. if there are significant premium hikes that will give the republicans a chance to hammer the been democrats, baby like mary landrieu, mark pryor, if the obamacare prices go unsignificantly. >> the counter-thought on democrats are people are getting used to the story -- they're real -- premium increases and they're happy when they stop going up at double-digit rates. americans have so built in an expectation this thing is like stink on steroids, that it's no longer stinking on stare erode and won't be as -- steroids and are not as angry. >> americans will get imcreases in their medical care who they're obamacare or not. americans see their healthcare price dozen up every year so it's unlikely with the modest increases those will register politically with people on the excha